Pinky’s mother Oi Surinya speaks about the leaked audio clip of herself arguing with Tanya Ramnarong over the ‘Miss you’ text message allegedly sent by Pinky to Tanya’s husband.
‘I am upset na. There are many people calling, I can’t accept them all. Whatever anyone wants to say, let them say it. (Have you talked to Pinky about this?) I have. She is indifferent towards it, she told me at an event she will say something. I don’t want to talk about anyone else. Everyone has their own reasoning. I have to apologize for losing senses because I can’t handle this anymore. I will be persistent in working and let time act as proof.’
‘As for the people who is giving us encouragement and are sympathetic, thank you. But right now, I want everyone to be separated in their own corners. I want it to end. Because this issue has no benefits to anyone. How we can pass this issue depends on time. Right now, I am just focusing on my responsiblities. I don’t want to fight.’
‘I don’t want anything. There are many shows that went me on but I don’t want to [make an appearance] I want this to pass as fast as possible. If there is anything just yell at me, I can accept it all. Don’t yell at Pinky. I pity my child. (We heard you have evidence.) I have no evidence of any sort. I won’t expose anyone to make a living. Even if I had evidence, I won’t do it. Why would I do it? Is this a movie or a lakorn (Thai series)? This is a person’s life. I want all the reporters to stop. I will stay in my corner, everyone else should stay in their corner.’
Pinky’s mother said she won’t hide or flee from this issue.
‘I won’t flee, I will work to earn a living. I won’t close off or hide. (Has the news affected your daughter’s work?) Work has been normal. There is nothing. I have gone through a lot–have been ruined a lot. This is not creative (fun) news at all, it’s better if you did news that have benefits. (Is Pinky stressed?) Her head is probably swirling. But she is not the type to speak. Like I said, if there is anything blame it on me. I want all the parties involve to end it. I apologize for using impolite words. I truly apologize. If I am wrong, I do apologize. At that time, I lost it. I am better now. I apologize, there is nothing shameful about that. I will stay in my corner and I believe that all the bad things will pass.’
Source: Kom Chad Luek
Unless we were in their shoes or have lived their lives or have had the same experiences, we should not approve or condemn their actions.
We will never know what their actions, intents or reasons are. What I want to see is for them to be able to move on. No one is benefiting from this on-going saga.
What I meant to say is we should not make judgement.
Exactly, don’t make judgement base of emotions ..
Many people are saying that they are basing everything on ‘facts’, but how do we know that Tanya is choosing to stay with Pek because of money? Because she still loves him? Because this and that which makes her seem like a ‘stupid’ person, in the words of many people here. And why do you think that she’s doing all of this? because she’s jealous of Pinky? Do you people know how long she’s been in the entertainment business? I’m sure she’s been there as long as Pinky since Pinky is a child star, but if she wants attention, I don’t think she would have waited this long… She went from being a nang’ek to a nang’rai and I’ve never seen any scandalous news about her…Not even a jealousy news of other nang’eks, but what about Pinky? Since I’m not a fan of either (but I’m old enough to be there when Tanya started her career so I know more) I don’t know detailed info. about Pinky’s news.
If we look back into the past, who here has the cleanest news? Who here wants the attention and the fame? I’m not saying that either are doing this for fame, but it seems like everyone here is saying that Tanya is jealous of Pinky and her come back or whatever so I’m bring this up.
Also, people are saying that Tanya won’t show the evidence because there are none.. Well if that’s the case, then what is Pinky waiting for? Just come out and prove yourself that you are innocent and you have stop all contact with Pek. If she can’t do that, then I still won’t side with her. She can be quiet and pretend to be the innocent nang’ek all she wants and make Tanya seem like the bad person, but I’m not buying it unless I hear or see her side of the story.
Don’t think that she can hide behind her mother, clearly everyone has already soften up to Pinky because her mother came out to speak for her. Don’t let some motherly love erase what she did in the past. I have no opinion towards Pink’y mother since it’s her job to protect her child, but she and her daughter are two different person. Don’t let her mother take the blame for what her daughter did. If she did nothing wrong, then Pinky should be brave to come out and speak and not let her mom do it for her.
I think the reason that Tanya called Pinky’s mom and not Pinky herself was because who else can ‘control’ her if not her mother? Why would she want to speak to some unreasonable husband stealing girl when she can talk to an actual adult? (once again, that’s just my opinion and not facts)
I wonder who would believe Tanya if she didn’t record all those phone conversations in the past? Would people believe a famous beautiful nang’ek or a fallen nang’ek turn nang’rai like her?
I also find it funny that people are asking for ‘evidence’ but when they get phone conversation evidence, they can’t handle it. They think it’s wrong, Tanya should be sued, etc. So…what kind of hard evidence are you looking for exactly? Pictures? (no, that wouldn’t work, because of Photoshop, right?) Press conference by both sides? (actually, that wouldn’t work either because that’s a he say/she say sort of thing..) So…us fans are never satisfied are we?
Overall, Tanya should just leave Pek. Finish what she wants to do, take revenge, get back at them or whatever, but in the end, she’s not creating a healthy lifestyle for her or her daughter.
Bravo Anlin… I totally agree with you 100%. CHEERS!!!!
That is why we don’t take any of this until proven guilty – either Pek, Tanya, or Pinky. The problem here is .. who leaks the tape? All fingers point toward Tanya b/c she recorded it and sent it. As for retribution .. it’s how we take and think of the situation. Until proven – all these debates are just opinions.
I just LOL at people who still support Tanya. Tanya & Pinky are both very stupid. Tanya for staying with a cheating scumbag. Pinky for messing with a married scumbag. Even before the whole Pinky-Peck-Tanya scandal, Peck was known to be a cheater. I don’t understand how people can still be sympathetic towards Tanya, who chose to stay with Peck. Other than the fact that she was cheated on, I don’t feel for her otherwise. You, yourself is your worst enemy. She has options and her best option (IMO) is to leave him. Yet, she stays with him and they continue to have problems. Then people point fingers at the mistress…it’s Pinky’s fault…she ruined Tanya’s marriage??? Marriage is between the 2 people who are involved, Peck & Tanya. A marriage only works when both work on it & fixed. It cannot be fixed by telling others to get it fixed. All I’m saying is Tanya is clearly taking this out on the wrong person. She can go after ALL of Peck’s mistresses and her marriage will NEVER be fixed.
My final point here is that if Tanya could leaves her jerk husband, then just leave him. I understand it will be hard on her daughter, but i’m sure her daughter will get use to it. Your daughter is not the only child will be without a father; there are millions of kids out there without parents. So Tanya, don’t use your daughter as the reason to stay. Leave him and move on, ok! You still young, pretty, and strong you can do it. Don’t waste your time for his money!!! If you don’t want to leave him then just drop it, and let Pinky and Pek continue with their affairs. VERY SIMPLE, LEAVE IT OR DROP IT! I don’t understand why Asian people always using their kids as the reason to stay with their spouses. For western people, they will leave their spouses for no second thoughts.
Pinky, you still young and pretty and can make your own money. Pek’s money can’t give you peace or happiness. Think wisely before take any actions. If you didn’t do it, then just come out and speak for your right. Defeat for your innocent, and proof that you didn’t txted Pek. Unless, you’re a coward that will let your mother takes all your blames. You’re not a 3 year-old child, who can’t talk or mute. You can speak for yourself, so don’t let your mother takes all the responsibilities, unless your mother is willing to be blamed for your actions.
No mother or father is wrong in this case. But if you the parents who want to babysit your daughter like she is a 1 year old, and speak for her like she is mute or can’t talk then that is your choice of being blamed on.
No words for that JERK PEK!!!
Exactly my point in this whole debate.
Ceci – you said you using your brain to think and not using your emotional to judge, but according to what you wrote here, it sounds like you using your emotion than your brain. Mostly, you talked about the blames on Pinky and her mother, and throwing trash on Tanya. I understand you love Pinky and all that, but we have to look at the FACTS, and listen carefully to the CLIPS. That’s what the CLIPS are for. Tanya never blamed or insulted Pinky’s mother, but called and informed Pinky’s mom as Pinky’s mom requested. Pinky’s mom was the one who got angry and using the inappropriate words on Tanya. I’m not either actress’s fan, but I speak what it should be speaking of. If Pinky didn’t texted Pek, and didn’t intend to destroy Tanya’s marriage, then she has to come out and defeat her rights. Pinky has all the rights to defeat herself as well as her mother, if she loves her mother as much as her mother loves her. Everyone has their say and their rights, so come out and speak!
All the evidences we see are from Tanya and those evidences are nothing but sound clips of her calling the other party. My point in here is that before we start taking side and concluding that one is right, we need to wait and see evidences from both .. I’m not using my emotions .. ppl in here is using EMOTION first therefore i’m using it back to explain the contradiction stories. Fact is .. we do not have ENOUGH evidences to conclude who is bad and who is not.
I always agree with you on everything!
that is how tanga act, she want everybody think that she is a good woman..she pretend to be good and left pinky mom get mad that would make people think that she is a real real nice lady, but if she is that nice than why do she just left it go and like they say if she forgive peck and why won’t she forgive pinky..she is just gold dick to she is hatred on pinky family to..she should realize if she is the one who make mistake once than the third party always follow to hurt her than how her mom will feeling to..suck tanya i don’t like this lady her face is like a man suck
wow, what a valid argument you have there. I’m sure a lot will agree with you. Sorry, I just had to point it out. Do you even know the real story, apparently none of us do so to just judge Tanya as a bad person because she’s still mad at Pinky? I think that’s call being human. You can probably forgive people who cheated on you the next day right? You won’t hold a grudge or anything like that? Then I’m probably a bad person like Tanya because it takes me a long time to feel the same away about the people who hurt me.
that is how tanga act, she want everybody think that she is a good woman..she pretend to be good and left pinky mom get mad that would make people think that she is a real real nice lady, but if she is that nice than why do she just left it go and like they say if she forgive peck and why won’t she forgive pinky..she is just gold dick to she is hatred on pinky family to..she should realize if she is the one who make mistake once than the third party always follow to hurt her than how her mom will feeling to.
C-indy, you ROCK!!! You point out the FACTS and the MAIN POINTS. I like your opinions, b/c you didn’t take sides.
^ Agree with both you and Cindy and many others who sound reasonable.
So opinions has turned into facts?
You hit it! Opinion and facts are two different things .. what we see and judge are all opinion .. not facts. We still have lots of facts that need to be leaks out to conclude this finding of who’s at fault .. until then .. no one should take side.
I would do the same thing if I were Tanya. Her marriage is ruined because Pinky, who she thought was her friend, and her husband betrayed her trust. I remember Tanya believing Pinky the first time when Pinky said nothing happened. Anyone would be furious too if they found out their spouse has been unfaithful especially with someone they knew. What a major slap to the face. I can understand her anger and these kind of emotions don’t just go away over night. It takes time to heal and move on, but it’s not easy when the cheaters are still in contact.
I believe Tanya is trying to move past this when she was informed that Pinky will stop but now is angry because that was not true.
Pinky deserves whatever comes her way. I don’t sympathize with cheaters. All this time, she hasn’t come out and address her side of the story. If I were her and am truly innocent, I would come out and defend my honor, not hide behind close doors and wait for the fire to die down. That is what you call a coward.
She’s not a kid anymore so her mom has to stop treating her like one or she will always be irresponsible for her actions. If her mom truly loves her daughter, she has to show some tough love.
After all is said and done, Tanya needs to gather all her courage and leave her husband. She and her daughter deserve better than this.
^ agree, couldn’t have said it better myself.
Tanya is a smart girl. If i were her or is in her shoe, I’ll do the same thing, record everything n leak it out. Everything happened r jux mainly evidence n the truth. Good luck to Pinky n no she don’t deserve a third chance. If this was a lakorn, I’m totally gonna like Tanya because like i said she’s a smart main girl for recording everything. I give her props.
‘laughing at other people’s misfortune is a bad characteristic’ ~ Jayparkaom.
Thank you Jay for this wonderful quote <3
Hey Cecilia, I like that quote, but for your information I’m not laughing at anyone’s misfortune. I’m exercising my rights by stating my opinions and the truth. Put urself in Tanya’s shoe. If ur man cheated on u and all u do is remain silent, take the pain, and not going to expose the truth or make any move then gf I’m gonna have to give you prop and a title for that.
i’m taking this prop in advance b/c at the end of all of this mess, what matter the most is doing what’s good for me. No one benefit this kind of mess unless i put myself to some benefit – in this case, myself. It is after all, me, myself, and i when it comes down to it.
it s women like tanya who makes look bad for us .tanya isn t smart ,she dumb for staying with that scumbag.recording people what is that doing to solve? now everyone knows your husband is trash,she can t change that.the guy will find someone else to cheat with .why? because he can t keep it in his pants.
i have no sympathy for tanya .she s weak and dumb.
if she s staying with the guy then she needs to give him a box of condom and shut up ,leave me alone with stupid news.
Tanya smart girl? Puahahahahaha! Tanya and smart does not even belong in the same sentence. Tanya is anything, but smart. She’s making women look inferior to men. She stays with a cheating husband & creates drama for herself.
If Tanya isn’t smart then what do you call Pinky? From how this situation started, I think smart and brave are the words I’d use for Tanya. She knows there are people who are going to hate her and love her, if she remained quiet then no one will ever know the truth.
I can’t think of any other way for people to see the real side of Pinky. If she didn’t do this, we’d probably still be stupid enough to believe that pretty face Pinky and that she’s innocent. Unless, you still want to believe that Pinky is a nice girl, then that’s ok, I like to live life in denial too
At no point did I ever say Pinky is a nice girl. And…I don’t want to start calling Pinky names (I do have a lot of names for her) to make Tanya supporters feel better. When it comes to being smart…for me, there is no “if’s” for Tanya. She is clearly NOT smart to me.
And brave??? LOL! You’re kidding right? Wow…she is so brave that she can’t leave that scumbag. Super brave…you think???
I think A LOT of people believe Tanya. I believe Tanya…to some degree. I simply don’t believe her actions are smart and I disagree with how she’s handling the situation.
Anlin, U did a good job at stating the point.
People need to wake up and realized that in reality Pinky is not the main girl especially in this situation. Those who disagree that what Tanya did was smart, in mine opinion, they must love to watch dramas that holds the storyline of the main girl getting punish after punish for what she has not done. Please judge a person by their action, not their acting skills.
Lakorn depict life – they are lesson to be learned not to be practiced .. what we’re seeing right is just another one of those reality show – everyone has a bad side to everything (be it little or big). No one is n’ek and p’ek here b/c either three of them have class to walk out of this show CLEANLY.
Tanya has calmed down for a while its not like she started again for nothing, if Pinky really still hasn’t stopped then I’m not going to give her a chance anymore, she has to let go of this worthless man- she has nothing tied with him WHY still holding on?!.Peck, well I just dont like him at all, and Tanya she has to calm down, I understand that when you are cheated you dont feel like letting that girl off so easily and naturally you want to win over that girl and show her whose boss, it’s probably one of the reason why she wont divorce, and because he’s the father of her child and because he’s rich, who doesn’t want a rich husband (thats probably the main reason why they both wont let him go- think about it, if he had no money who would go near a married old man with a child and doesn’t even look that great- well at least I wouldn’t) but anyway she’s not going to be happy even with him back (I know that she doesn’t want her child to be far from her father, cause my parents only separated when I went to 1st year highschool cause they wanted the whole family to be together in my important period of growth etc) but still.
it’s all he say, she say – we have not hear anything from pinky’s side beside the harassment Tanya gave to her mother.
Oh come on… if Pinky was NOT GUILTY she would have denied it!!! This shows she’s lying low and hoping that people will forget…and forgive… (Like what Thaksin loves to do)… Well, she is reaping what she sowed…..
She didn’t deny or confirm it either … we assumed and fault her just like how we assume and praise Tanya. Until further evidences come out, both are at fault at whatever they do but as audience .. we shouldn’t choose side b/c these are not strong sources yet.
And what’s taking Pinky so long to come out and deny? She’s waiting for the cows to come home or what?
There are already lots of cows in the farm .. just that none of them wants to milk it out. We have no other choices but to sit and wait for every drop to drip down before we can have our FULL CUP to satisfy our thirst ^___^
If someone is innocent but seen as guilty by other people, she will want to get the truth out! But its been more than a few days n she’s still keeping mum… her mum didn’t even say anything when she expressed herself later… so you think Pinky can be innocent? I don’t see how????? There’s no milk left from Pinky…. not even spoilt ones…
like i said tanya is weak .she needs to grow up and take responsibility for her life .how is pinky stopping them.did she put a gun to her husband head.
pretty soon, her husband will be in a scandal with another woman.watch and see.that type of guy is no good.
Right on! She needs to stay strong like she project herself to be and move on with her with without a man like Pek. Be it Pinky or not .. if he wants to cheat, he will cheat and if she feels or think that he’s not cheating then that should be the end of everything. In all honestly, i don’t think she moves on as she think she is b/c if she does really move on .. this little ignition shouldn’t shatter her into pieces to drop this low in her thinking.
Why the double standards here again? Pinky deserves a chance but Peck will never change? I smell something fishing here…
Tanya needs to realize that she and Peck have no future. If she’s going to stay with him, then she needs accept his cheating behaviors. If she can’t do that (obviously she can’t), then she needs to leave.
everyone is blaming pinky’s mom.what about tanya s mon who didn t instill self-esteem in her child.And her husband mother who didn t give teach him how to value his promises and respect others.
listen tanya ,if someone is feeding you shit ,don t sit there and eat it and blame others.
it s not 1950.we are in 2012 grow up and stop relying on a man(scumbag) .
exactly. We blame other but we forgot some – so contradicting.
The level of mistake that Tanya did in her life isn’t at the same level as Pinky’s.
Although, I don’t think it’s right to blame any mothers, of course they want to see their child grown up to be a good person and after that, they’re on their own (the child, I mean.) So it’s not right to blame the mothers but the person themselves.
Also, if you haven’t noticed, Tanya isn’t taking any sh*t from anyone. And by not taking any sh*t, she’s getting blamed for it. So overall, it seems like people just want her to shut up and stop fighting for herself.
Really? In contrast, I think Tanya is taking a sh*t load of crap! If you look at it, Peck treats her like sh*t. He cheated on her many times. He threatened her. How much more sh*t can she take until she finally says “enough?”
Yeah…she really needs to shut up and stop fighting for something that’s not there anymore. It does not make her a better person. Tired of the same excuse…staying for her daughter, doing this and that for her daughter. Her daughter is growing up in an unhappy home. What good does that do for her?
once a cheater always a cheater.that husband is no good.he s scumbag, he s not pinky s fault she chose a bastard to marry.
i have no sympathy for that wife,i don t feel shit for weak & stupid people.get some guts and divorce the trash already.
man like that make me sick.it s like they go to strip club every night and blame the strippers for dancing.guess what? u shouldn t be there.i predict him to cheat again & again & again.
i can t stand him or wife .pathetic.
I do feel for Tanya. She trusted Pinky at first and she got hurt. But she let the scumbag do this to her over and over again.
I agree, Tanya is being stupid by not letting go of the trash that she married, but Pinky is also at fault for having an affair with a married man. She is an adult, she should have had more common sense to stay away from a married man. I guess she just like all the other people out there, who can’t keep their legs closed. Tanya should leave him and realize there is no hope. I feel bad for Tanya, because she was betrayed and she is a victim like many other women, who are belittled by their stupid husbands. But it is time for her to destroy the culprits and move on. What goes around comes around. Pinky, and the trash, wanted to cheat, then they will be scrutinized and looked down upon for their disgusting behaviors. Tanya wants to stay with that worthless pig, then she will also be looked down as being a weak female. All Tanya has to do is castrate that pig, then he will never cheat on her again. That way she can keep him, his money for her and her child, if that’s why is she still staying with him. There should be laws where we castrate male and mutilate females for being cheaters.
Ok are all the ppl who seems to strongly believe that Pinky is entitled to a 2nd chance — as a person who haS never ever been cheated on i know that it will hurt on sooo MANY different levels to have that happen to my relationship. And i know for a fact that i will never ever even think about stealing anyones husband, bf, or fiance, coz its just so morally wrong. There are billions of ppl in this world to date, esp for someone like Pinky, shes pretty.
What she did whether its Pek who persued her 1st or vice versa, is simply wrong to the point where “everyone deserves a 2nd chance” almost sounds like a meaningless cliche. I believe that yes she deserves a 2nd chance with work, with her new relationships etc BUT there is no reason for Tanya to give pinky a 2nd chance by letting her off so easily. Let the past be the past and move on is too simple for the amount of hurt she’s caused for tanya.
If Pinky was brave enough to hook up with Pek for whatever reason, then she has to simply be ready for whatever tanya has to throw at her. If not, she shouldve thought abt this in the 1st place. Its not right for tanya to hold grudges for too long coz its not healthy, but come on if this were to happen to YOU PERSONALLY, it wont be so hard to get over.
****** won;t be so easy to get over. opps.
it takes the same amount of force to be angry as well as being happy (or maybe twice the amount) so why make yourself miserable in that shoe. If she’s able to give Pek a second chance then why can’t she give Pinky as well? The question is .. is this fair enough for these two when she values one over the other? Both Pinky and Pek are wrong so then she should punish both .. not just one over the other (pek is not a man worth fighting for) she deserved so much more than putting herself low and low. I’m not saying that PINKY is in her right mind to go after a married man too (if ppl actually read my comment carefully – i always say, it takes two to tango so don’t blame one over the other. don’t assume one thing over the other). In all respect, everyone has the right to express what they want but at the end of the day, don’t use our emotions to judge them. Use some logic here by putting ourselves in all of their shoes – even as Liyah when she grows up having to learn that her mother stick around with her cheating dad for her sake. Guilty or not, we can’t blame one — both needs to be blame and if TANYA really is moving on then she shouldn’t dwell on this. Best suggestion for her to do is DIVORCE him and stop using Liyah as an excuse to make her stoop lower than low as day goes by. I’d applaud her if she actually picks up herself and stop making all these small mistakes for for this matter (recent leak) i’m in no way taking whatever she said as truth. I just don’t buy it that she didnt’ leaks it.
i always tell myself that as a woman that i have the right to make every decision i want despite society norms or what not. If i feel what i’m doing is right then i’m ready to take any obstacles that come my way. If i ever in Tanya shoe and find out that before our marriage or after our marriage, my bf or husband cheat on me .. i won’t give him a third chance. The first mistake can be an error but second time around – things need to be end. I understand she’s upset but she shouldn’t let her emotion trigger such low thoughts in her head. I’d rather live a single life being happy than to live with a cheating man (that’s my two cent on it).
Come to think of it, if we don’t give people 2nd chance then how can we expect those people to live and learn when they know that no matter what they do, ppl will still look at them lowly? Very contradicting thoughts – imagine one day you land in that shoe even when you didn’t commit the crime – how will you feel or what can you do to make people change their mind/thoughts on you b/c in truth is .. you’re are innocent until proven guilty?
And what does Tanya get out of dragging the drama on??? Happiness? Peck’s love back???
Here’s the difference between my mom and pinky’s mom. Pinky’s mom pat her daughter on the head and protects her even though she broke someone’s marriage. My mom would take me out and beat the shit out of me, disown me, and tell everyone that she has no daugther. Now that’s a mother’s love, someone who teaches you good and will not stand by and allow you to sin.
i think behind close doors – she’s doing that .. but b/c she only have one daughter, maybe she didn’t do the other half lmao but you know .. if i were to be a mom and my daughter happen to be in this shoe, i would look at these carefully and teach her from right to wrong .. and hope that she will not repeat the same things over. Disowning her is a bit too much for me to follow through with this mistakes cause by two people. But i understand what you’re saying, my mom would do the same to me too if i were ever to do this .. but personally, my view is different .. i feel people deserved a second try after their first fail.
Pinky’s savior.
HAHAHA .. i guess using logic makes me a savor ^__^
Dang Ceci…it’s like you can’t even state the facts without being called “Pinky’s Savior.”
I think most of us that are bashing Tanya is clearly bashing her for her behavior now…Not because we’re Pinky fans or “Pinky’s PR” or “Pinky’s Savior.”
We’re using our brain to think instead of using our EMOTIONS to judge .. therefore, we’re illogical lol — hahaha, perhaps this will help eliminate the culprit process easier : http://www.wikihow.com/Solve-a-Problem
OMG you’re using wiki as a source? Oh that is hilarious. I’m sorry that my brain aren’t as bright as yours to defend someone who spread their legs for a married man and not even apologize for it after getting caught. I guess I’m just following what my mom taught me.
According to my English professor – WIKI is a liable source as there are professional out there who go through this frequently. On top of that, they credit their sources with proper crediting .. therefore, their sources are just as valid as any other sources. What you heard, what you see are misinformation lmao
According to their experts: Trustworthiness
Critics of publicly editable wiki systems argue that these systems could be easily tampered with, while proponents argue that the community of users can catch malicious content and correct it.[2] Lars Aronsson, a data systems specialist, summarizes the controversy as follows:
Most people, when they first learn about the wiki concept, assume that a Web site that can be edited by anybody would soon be rendered useless by destructive input. It sounds like offering free spray cans next to a grey concrete wall. The only likely outcome would be ugly graffiti and simple tagging, and many artistic efforts would not be long lived. Still, it seems to work very well.[9]
High editorial standards in medicine have led to the idea of expert-moderated wikis.[19] Some wikis allow one to link to specific versions of articles, which has been useful to the scientific community, in that expert peer reviewers could analyse articles, improve them and provide links to the trusted version of that article.[20]
Noveck points out that “participants are accredited by members of the wiki community, who have a vested interest in preserving the quality of the work product, on the basis of their ongoing participation.” On controversial topics that have been subject to disruptive editing, a wiki may restrict editing to registered users.[21] — read more here before you start laughing again : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki <– now that's fact over WORDS.
I'm not saying that you're stupid or anything but from what you said, you're under estimating my judgement. I suppose from not from reading all my point of view. Now, if i were to be a victim of any crimes .. i do not want to be my juror b/c you use your EMOTION to solve this problem. End of story.
*i do not want you to be my juror as you use EMOTION take over our logic. A juror’s job is to see things in two ways, no one way.
*Goodness, i write way too fast. So many errors. (tired of fixing it now)
Logic? It just seem you are swaying towards Pinky’s side, so is that logical.? Let’s see where U stand later…
I’m not taking a stand between these two … the end result will defined/confirmed who’s actually at fault and that is all about it BUT I do know one thing for sure and that is — you’re standing firm in one spot regardless (even if there’s more or less evidence, you already make up your mind)
* i did not make this personal until you make it personal to me.
Oh Come on… admit it… You’re obviously on Pinky’s side for whatever reason but don’t be embarrassed about it! Just admit it like a Man! It’s irritating when you keep on pretending to be in the middle, using your so called “LOGICAL” arguments that show even further that you are on her side!
Just ask yorself this simple question… if you happen to have a very handsome and charming husband like Om Akapan or Ken Teeradet who happen to be very RICH as well…. would you in your sound mind intorduce him to PINKY and leave them alone while you go oerseas for a trip!?
Bwahahahahhahhhhh!
You keep kidding yourself about using logic, such as comparing Tanya
s daughter Liya and Pinky’s mother’s protection of her…. there’s absolutely no logic at all since Liya is just a kid and did not do anything wrong!! Arguing that Pinky’s mother is naturally protecting her due to mother instincts reminds me of some many other cases in thailand, like the girl whose bad driving killed the lives of the Thammasart people, or Yubumrung protecting his scumbag of a son who killed a policeman. It’s instincts like these that spoils their kids and “allows” them to continue doing those bad things. Ask your own conscience when you say you are using logic.
tanya is bit turn down other people..she think picky is money dick, but she marry to pek that mean she is money dick that is why she never want to divorced with her husband..
this old lady tanya is really stupid.. i see she been do all this shift to pinky until now she know that pinky has more work than she came back to make pinky look bad again..hehe stupid if who ever believe that tanay she is good person that would be stupid enough.. i never like tanya and i never watch any other her movie it wait my time ehhehe